If you build it, they will come

By Jeff

This week, Micah and John, the namesakes of the Just Two Guys blog, each promoted the idea of building a new baseball-playing-and-spectating facility in our hometown.

Back in the late 1970s, Springfield was home to the Cardinals’ Triple-A American Association farm club. Our town got to see such players as Tom Herr, Ken Oberkfell, Glenn Brummer, John Stuper and Tito Landrum, all of whom would go on to play for the Cardinals’ 1982 World Champion team. Even Bob Sykes, the man who was traded for the legendary Willie McGee, once played in Springfield.

After the 1981 season, the Redbirds were spirited away to Louisville, and in came the Single-A Midwest League Cardinals. Guys like Ray Lankford, Bernard Gilkey, Todd Zeile, Dmitri Young and Taylorville native Pat Perry were kids playing in the Land of Lincoln. That franchise lasted through the 1993 season.

Replacing the Cardinals were the Sultans, a Padres MWL affiliate. They left after 1994, were replaced by the Royals’ affiliate in 1995, and then in 1996 followed by the Capitals (which featured a then-unknown Jason Simontacchi), an independent Frontier League franchise, which lasted until 2000.

All those teams played at Robin Roberts Stadium at Lanphier Park, which by modern standards is obsolete. Named after Springfield’s greatest ballplayer, the playing surface there is great, but the facility surrounding it is woefully inadequate. If my memory serves, there was one concession stand, and it also housed the lone souvenir outlet. I believe there was one restroom per gender, and you needn’t ask about luxury boxes, because there were none.

In order to be financially viable, a team today needs things like luxury boxes and multiple concession stands, souvenir stands and bathrooms. Which is why Springfield needs a new stadium.

But where to build it?

Micah and John both advocate a new stadium be built downtown, something I’m enthusiastically in favor of as well. A downtown ballpark would greatly increase the foot traffic in the city center. People could make an evening out of it: They could head downtown before the game and grab a bite and a beer, go watch the game and then maybe grab another bite and hit a bar with their buddies before catching a bus or cab home.

It doesn’t just have to be the hot-dog-and-beer crowd, either. A family could come to the ballpark early with picnic basket in hand, have their meal in a special area similar to those of the Quad Cities‘ and many other ballparks. A well-built minor-league park would cater to families with young children with such picnic areas and playgroundy-type amenities.

If a downtown park isn’t feasible, I think the next-best location would be adjacent to what will be called “Legacy Pointe,” the so-called lifestyle center planned for the area between Wabash Avenue and Interstate 72 along the extended MacArthur Boulevard. A park there would have the same effect as it would downtown: increasing foot traffic, this time in a high-density, more-or-less upscale retail area, rife with various shops and restaurants.

But to be absolutely certain, a downtown location would be best.

Sounds great. What about the team?

Yes. You need a baseball team to get people to come to a baseball park. As I mentioned before, Springfield is the hometown of Hall-of-Fame pitcher Robin Roberts, who enjoyed his best years with the Phillies during the 1950s. With his permission, of course, you could base the whole team concept around Mr. Roberts and his connection to Springfield and the Phillies.

First, and most obvious, the team would be a farm club for Phillies. The nickname? The Springfield Robins, of course. Uniforms could be based upon the style that Roberts wore during his time with the Phillies, such as this one, or possibly this one.

The stadium itself could evoke the grandeur of old Shibe Park, where Roberts played during his tenure with the Phillies. Something similar to this:

The historical connections wouldn’t have to be limited to Roberts and the Phillies, either. Many other accomplished major-leaguers have hailed from Springfield and the surrounding area: Ducky and Dick Schofield, Kevin Seitzer, Jeff Fassero, Tim Hulett, et al. You’ve heard of Pesky’s Pole at Fenway Park? Well, perhaps the rightfield fair pole in our new stadium could be Ducky’s Pole.

Baseball, more than any other sport, reveres its history, and Springfield would be doing itself a favor by keeping its own baseball history alive in such a fashion.

This is a Cards-Cubs town. Why the Phillies?

I’ll tell you why. To be successful, a baseball team would need more than just a local historical connection. It would need to unite the community behind it, to serve as a rallying point.

But it is well known that this is Cardinals and Cubs country. If a minor-league affiliate of either of those teams were to come to town, people who hold the opposite rooting interest might not want to support such a team.

But a neutral team such as the Phillies would not come with such baggage, and everyone can root freely.

All of this, however, is going to take much more than the online bleatings of a couple of bloggers. People are going to want to have a baseball team come back to town. And after bad experiences with the last couple of teams, I don’t blame anyone for being apprehensive.

It’s also going to take a boatload of money. But the days of A. Ray Smith are long past. There will have to be a local ownership group formed, one with extremely deep pockets. Deep enough not only to be able to get a team, but also to get a stadium built. Using public monies to benefit private business interests is something to which I’m philosophically opposed. The only possible way to get away with that is to make the city or whichever governmental entity foots the bill the owner of the stadium.

It’s been more than a decade since affiliated minor-league baseball has been played in Springfield. It’s not like this town is too small to support a Single-A franchise; Springfield would sit roughly in the middle population-wise with other Midwest League cities. Comparable cities include South Bend, Ind., Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and the Quad Cities. And small Wisconsin towns such as Beloit and Appleton have had Midwest League franchises dating back to before our own Springfield Cardinals.

We can do this. All it takes is people who want to make it happen. Count me in.

9 Responses to “If you build it, they will come”

  1. John Says:

    Glad to see you’re back.

    I think you lay out a great case for a new baseball team and stadium in Springfield. The Robin Roberts connection is a beautiful one. Micah and I have been bouncing around ideas for teams, and we both agree that a Cubs or Cardinals affiliated team would be problematic. You’re just not going to have 100% rooting power behind one of those teams. We had bounced around a White Sox club, but the Phillies would be a perfect fit. And to do a modern take on Shibe Park would really fit in with the “historic” feel that we’re trying to achieve in Springfield.

    Great stuff.

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  4. Liam Says:

    Second the “glad you’re back” sentiments.

    Sounds like a great idea. I’d love it if there were a minor league team so close to home (non-Cubs affiliated, of course, kudos on that line of reasoning.)

  5. Ryan Says:

    Wow, all of this talk has gotten me extremely excited about getting another team in Springfield. I absolutely LOVE baseball and, being a “young” person and speaking for all “young” people, we desperately need something to do in Illinois’ Capitol City. Best Buy and White Oaks Mall just don’t do it for us anymore.

  6. Jeff Says:

    Liam, isn’t Champaign about halfway between Springfield and Indianapolis? The Pirates’ AAA club is there. Except it’s the Pirates.

  7. Johann Says:

    First off, great to have you back, 2-6.

    Secondly, I’d love the idea of a “real” minor league team back in town- “real” meaning consisting of players one may actually have a realistic shot of seeing in the Bigsā„¢ one day- but unfortunately I don’t think there would be enough support. There hasn’t been iin the past, folks, not since the Redbirds first left.

    I fully 100% agree first of all that it’s a great idea. I also concur that it should be a franchise from a “neutral” team- i.e. non-Cubs, Cardinals, or White Sox. Perhaps not so much so with the Sox, but having a Cubs or Cardinals farm team would be too polarizing to really get its due support. However, the problem therein is that if it is not a farm team of the Cubs or Cardinals, I’d be afraid there wouldn’t be enough interest due to the lack of local fan base for the parent club (i.e. the Sultans). So whaddya do?!

    Plus, as much as I hate to say it, I really would rather see players that might one day make the bigs. If I’m going to watch essentially anonymous players play ball basically because they enjoy the game, then I can go watch high school games for $4.50 instead of dropping $10-20. I know we won’t steal the Redbirds back from Louisville (or any team of equal level) or anything like that, but it was always kinda cool to be able to watch an MLB game and say I saw that guy play AA ball or A ball or whatever here in l’il ol’ Springpatch- i.e. the Glenn Brummers, the Tito Landrums, etc. Whether they went to the Cardinals or not.

    I’m not sure a downtown stadium is feasible. It’s a great idea, but it’s just not feasible. Where would you put it?! The “Legacy Pointe” idea wouldn’t be bad, I suppose. I just don’t think there’d be enough funding for it, and I really doubt the city would pass a tax increase for a new stadium under the premise of “If we build it, HOPEFULLY they will come”.

    Anyway, great to have you back.

  8. Johann Says:

    Um… I meant “steal the Redbirds back from MEMPHIS”… sorry about that…

  9. John Says:

    Jeff-

    Saw your post this morning on the Baseball Episode of Just Two Guys we taped last week. If you want to get involved, we’d love to do a face to face interview with you to discuss some of your ideas for bringing baseball back to Springfield. Or we could do a phone interview, whichever you’d prefer. Back when this whole discussion got started, I thought you had some great angles on the whole issue. You are certainly more well-versed in baseball history than Micah or me. Hit me up on the e-mail if you’d be interested, and we’ll talk.

    The baseball show we taped was really more to get the word out into the community. I think we could follow-up with some thoughtful discussion, and that would get people thinking more seriously. Maybe we could even do a roundtable discussion with some other bloggers or baseball “authorities” in the community.

    Let me know, man.

    John

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